How are Hinduism and Sikhism related, considering they both originated in Punjab, India?

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Sriraag / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 92

ਤਜੀ ਲੇ ਬਨਾਰਸ ਮਤਿ ਭਈ ਥੋਰੀ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

ਕਾਸੀ ਮਗਹਰ ਸਮ ਬੀਚਾਰੀ ॥

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The divergence of Kabir’s views from Vedanta is seen in the fact that he fully opposed religious symbolism of ALL KINDS and not just IDOLS.

Kabir (a weaver)

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Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 325

ਏਕ ਦਿਵਸ ਮਨ ਭਈ ਉਮੰਗ ॥

Ramarchan Paddati gives more info about his teachings.

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There is a reason why I mention ROOTED and thus NOT implying that it belongs to one of the numerous sects in Sanatana Dharma like Shaivism, Vaishnavism, Shaktism, Smartism etc…

ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਇਹੁ ਕੀਆ ਵਖਾਨਾ ॥

I have taken the One Formless Lord into my heart; I humbly worship Him there. ||3||

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Again we see that the originator of this Sant Sampraday himself talks about Brahman even in Gurbani.

Says Kabeer, this is what I say:

Ramanandacharya’s teachings were centered on pure and personal connection with the God Rama and didn’t believe in any kind of formal ritualism. He used the common vernacular language instead of Sanskrit so that everyone could understand.

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Ravidas (a chamar shoemaker)

So in the same spirit Kabir finds pilgrimages to holy cities futile as his mind is fixated on Rama!

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Says Kabeer, unto whom should I tell this?

ਏਕੋ ਸੇਵੀ ਅਵਰੁ ਨ ਦੂਜਾ ॥੨॥

There, where millions of Krishnas stand with hands folded,

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Meeting with the Guru, my Spiritual Teacher, I realize God, my Lord and Master. ||5||3||

The Word of the Guru's Shabad eradicates the karma of millions of past actions. ||3||1||

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ਓਛੀ ਭਗਤਿ ਕੈਸੇ ਉਤਰਸਿ ਪਾਰੀ ॥੪॥

ਜਹਾ ਜਾਈਐ ਤਹ ਜਲ ਪਖਾਨ ॥

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 325

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My body and breath of life belong to Allah - to Raam - the God of both. ||4||

I wasted my whole life in the city of Shiva;

These morons know nothing, they wander about in ignorance,

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Sadhna (a Muslim butcher) and

ਤਬ ਲਗੁ ਹੋਇ ਨਹੀ ਚਰਨ ਨਿਵਾਸੁ ॥੩॥

Let's look at the views of Sant Kabir

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— Kabir, II.57, Translated by Rabindranath Tagore

Look within your heart, for there you will find both Karim and Ram;

If God be within the mosque, then to whom does this world belong?

ਸਾਧਸੰਗਤਿ ਬੈਕੁੰਠੈ ਆਹਿ ॥੪॥੧੦॥

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Sant Kabir was staunchly against cow slaughter.

I went to God's place, and worshipped Him there.

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Says Kabeer, the Guru and Ganaysha and Shiva all know

Where the demi-gods and the munis are unnumbered, where millions of Saraswatis, goddess of music play the vina,

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 326

Hari is in the East, Allah is in the West.

Ramanandacharya was a 14th-century Hindu Vaishnava devotional poet saint who amalgamated Advaita with Vaishnava Bhakti. He was the pioneer in validating NIRGUN and SAGUN Bhakti as parallel paths.

As long as the mind is filled with the desire for heaven,

ਊਹਾਂ ਤਉ ਜਾਈਐ ਜਉ ਈਹਾਂ ਨ ਹੋਇ ॥੨॥

We can see that great saints like Kabir and Ravidas etc… descended from the Ramananda sampradaya which is still the largest ascetic order in India.

ਗੁਰ ਪੀਰ ਮਿਲਿ ਖੁਦਿ ਖਸਮੁ ਪਛਾਨਾ ॥੫॥੩॥

I ground up sandalwood, along with several fragrant oils.

Sikhism is a NIRGUN path descending from the Sant Sampraday of Ramanandacharya and traces its ideas to VEDANTA!

ਨਾ ਹਮ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਨ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ ॥

Kaashi and Magahar - I consider them the same.

Where millions of Vishnus bow their heads, where millions of Brahmas are reading the Vedas,

To him who is high-minded, these teachings will be illuminating.

He accepted even women (Sursuri and Padywati) as disciples. Bhagat Pipa and Dhanna were Rajput and Jat who were also his disciples.

Here ਰਾਮੈ is Rama and not just lord. Kabir died chanting the name of Rama DESPITE him not finding any result of penances done in holy cities in his previous birth. Another example to show how much Kabir valued personal devotion to Rama in his own NIRGUN style.

For him Dharma was beyond everything physical including the desire for heaven because was fully into the NIRGUN . The last verse shows that according to him the company of the enlightened Sadhus is heaven which is again a typical teaching of Sanatana Dharma.

— Kabir, Ramaini 1, Translated by David Lorenzen

He does not dwell at the Lord's Feet. ||3||

I am a sacrifice to You, O my True Guru.

Now that my time to die has come, I have come to dwell at Magahar! ||3||

Gauree, Kabeer Jee, Panch-Padas:

Actually, this part of the Ang 326 is widely used by McSikhs to show that Sikhism considers Hindu pilgrimages as useless and thus drives home the point again that the “religion” has got NOTHING to do with Hinduism.

From Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 1195

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਜੀ ਘਰੁ ੧

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਰਮਤ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ॥

ਮੇਰਾ ਚਿਤੁ ਨ ਚਲੈ ਮਨੁ ਭਇਓ ਪੰਗੁ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

Raamaanand's Lord and Master is the All-pervading Lord God.

ਬ੍ਰਹਮ is Brahm i.e the Brahman of vedanta but it gets interpreted as an all-pervading lord god.

I left Benares - I had little common sense. ||1|| Pause ||

ਕਬੀਰ ਨਿਰਗੁਣ ਨਾਮ ਨ ਰੋਸੁ ॥

As mentioned above Guru Arjan Dev was talking from the perspective Sant Kabir whose views we have discussed much earlier here. We know that Sant Kabir continuing in the Ramanandi Sampradaya went further away from the mainstream ritualistic Hinduism and was journeying more towards a SEAMLESS Dharma.

Guru Nanak (right) and Bhai Mardana (foreground) with Bhagat Kabir (left). This painting is found in the B-40 Janamsakhi, written and painted in 1733. The painting was made by Alam Chand Raj

ਗੁਰ ਕਾ ਸਬਦੁ ਕਾਟੈ ਕੋਟਿ ਕਰਮ ॥੩॥੧॥

There is my Lord self-revealed, and the scent of sandal and flowers dwells in those deeps.

ਤੂ ਪੂਰਿ ਰਹਿਓ ਹੈ ਸਭ ਸਮਾਨ ॥

ਘਸਿ ਚੰਦਨ ਚੋਆ ਬਹੁ ਸੁਗੰਧ ॥

With inadequate devotion, how can anyone swim across? ||4||

I do not make pilgrimages to Mecca, nor do I worship at Hindu sacred shrines.

ਅਲਹ ਰਾਮ ਕੇ ਪਿੰਡੁ ਪਰਾਨ ॥੪॥

The young and the old drink milk pudding, but these fools eat the cow's body.

You are totally pervading and permeating in all.

ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਮੈ ਬਲਿਹਾਰੀ ਤੋਰ ॥

Sain (a barber)

I am like a fish out of water,

That God showed me the Guru, within my own mind. ||1||

The views of Kabir are very much in parallel to the Advaita philosophy and it is obvious that as the disciple of Ramanandacharya he will carry forward with his chosen NIRGUN BHAKTI.

ਸਗਲ ਜਨਮੁ ਸਿਵ ਪੁਰੀ ਗਵਾਇਆ ॥

Kabir is the child of Allah and of Ram: He is my Guru, He is my Pir.

There the streams of light flow in all directions, few are the men who can cross to that shore!

Raamaanand Jee, First House:

Ramananda accepted disciples without discriminating against anyone by gender, class or caste and they included even people from humble origins like

At the time of my death, I moved to Magahar. ||2||

NOW…

Where millions of Shivas are lost in contemplation, where millions of Indras dwell in the sky,

You have cut through all my confusion and doubt.

ਸੋ ਬ੍ਰਹਮੁ ਬਤਾਇਓ ਗੁਰ ਮਨ ਹੀ ਮਾਹਿ ॥੧॥

I am not a Hindu, nor am I a Muslim.

One day, a desire welled up in my mind.

ਹਜ ਕਾਬੈ ਜਾਉ ਨ ਤੀਰਥ ਪੂਜਾ ॥

ਮਰਤੀ ਬਾਰ ਮਗਹਰਿ ਉਠਿ ਆਇਆ ॥੨॥

ੴ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ ॥

ਗਉੜੀ ਕਬੀਰ ਜੀ ਪੰਚਪਦੇ ॥

From where did the word Maya come? Isn’t it a typical Vedantic concept discussed profoundly in Advaita? It definitely isn’t a concept pioneered by Kabir or even his teacher Ramanandacharya! It is ultimately from Sanatana Dharma!

ਜਬ ਲਗੁ ਮਨਿ ਬੈਕੁੰਠ ਕੀ ਆਸ ॥

Wherever I go, I find water and stones.

Kabeer: O worthless mortal, do not lose the Naam, the Name of the Lord.

How can people understand You, when they are entranced by Maya? ||1|| Pause ||

CONCLUSION:

The Sant Sampraday of Sikh panth integrates the warrior spirit of the Nihangs and Khalsa, the service of Seva panth and the renunciation of Udasi/Nirmala saints.

The influence of Kabir is significant on Sikhism. The following Bani from Ang 1136 is attributed to GURU ARJAN DEV but if you observe at the end you can see that he was talking in the spirit of Sant Kabir.

Recklessly they display boundless pride while explaining their own aims, they kill cows.

Raamaanand's Lord and Master is the All-pervading Lord God.

I serve the One Lord, and not any other. ||2||

ਬੇਦ ਪੁਰਾਨ ਸਭ ਦੇਖੇ ਜੋਇ ॥

Here ਨਿਰਗੁਣ is Nirgun and not just lord. This is just another example to show that Kabir himself continued in the NIRGUN BHAKTI path.

ਕਤ ਜਾਈਐ ਰੇ ਘਰ ਲਾਗੋ ਰੰਗੁ ॥

ਪੂਜਨ ਚਾਲੀ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਠਾਇ ॥

I am not a Hindu, nor am I a Muslim.

If Ram be within the image which you find upon your pilgrimage,

then who is there to know what happens without?

That Kabeer died chanting the Lord's Name. ||5||15||

ਕਹੁ ਗੁਰ ਗਜ ਸਿਵ ਸਭੁ ਕੋ ਜਾਨੈ ॥

For a superficial McSikh who is interested only in separation and not enlightenment the views of Kabir can be easily shown as a denouncement of Hindu practices.

Shvetashvatara Upanishad (6.23)

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Without looking into one's heart, how can one reach paradise?

My consciousness does not go out wandering. My mind has become crippled. ||1|| Pause ||

All the men and women of the world are His living forms.

— Kabir, III.2, Translated by Rabindranath Tagore

Where spring, the lord of seasons reigneth, there the unstruck music sounds of itself,

Because in my previous life, I did not practice penance and intense meditation. ||1||

ਮੁਆ ਕਬੀਰੁ ਰਮਤ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਰਾਮੈ

ਕੈਸੇ ਬੂਝੈ ਜਬ ਮੋਹਿਆ ਹੈ ਮਾਇਆ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

Kabir, Ravidas and ultimately the NINE SIKH GURUS are a product of this very Sant Sampraday founded by Ramanandacharya!

यस्य देवे परा भक्तिः यथा देवे तथा गुरौ । तस्यैते कथिता ह्यर्थाः प्रकाशन्ते महात्मनः प्रकाशन्ते महात्मन इति ।

ਏਕ ਨਿਰੰਕਾਰ ਲੇ ਰਿਦੈ ਨਮਸਕਾਰਉ ॥੩॥

Let’s see what Gurbani has about Ramanandacharya’s views.

I do not perform Hindu worship services, nor do I offer the Muslim prayers.

ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਇਹ ਕਹੀਐ ਕਾਹਿ ॥

One Universal Creator God. By The Grace Of The True Guru:

Now here in this verse

The Saadh Sangat, the Company of the Holy, is heaven. ||4||10||

ਪੂਜਾ ਕਰਉ ਨ ਨਿਵਾਜ ਗੁਜਾਰਉ ॥

Let’s look at the most used verse by McSikhs to show that Sikhs are neither Hindus nor Muslims.

ਮੁਆ ਕਬੀਰੁ ਰਮਤ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਰਾਮੈ ॥੫॥੧੫॥

For many years, I practiced penance and intense meditation at Kaashi;

ਮਰਨੁ ਭਇਆ ਮਗਹਰ ਕੀ ਬਾਸੀ ॥੩॥

He who has highest Bhakti of Deva (God), just like his Deva, so for his Guru (teacher),

ਪੂਰਬ ਜਨਮ ਹਉ ਤਪ ਕਾ ਹੀਨਾ ॥੧॥

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But we have actually seen how much Kabir is also rooted in the Vedantic concept of “supreme realization” but in a non-mainstream path.

ਨਾ ਹਮ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਨ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ ॥

Bhakti movement began in South (Tamil Nadu to be precise) and slowly spread to Northern parts of India. This movement was extremely popular because of its simple fundamentals which could be understood by even commonfolk. Vaishnavism, Shaivism etc… were already connecting with commonfolk from a long time and this Bhakti movement reinforced it by making the devotee feel a personal connection with the deity.

ਬਹੁਤੁ ਬਰਸ ਤਪੁ ਕੀਆ ਕਾਸੀ ॥

I have searched through all the Vedas and the Puraanas.

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਰਮਤ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ॥

ਜਿਉ ਜਲ ਛੋਡਿ ਬਾਹਰਿ ਭਇਓ ਮੀਨਾ ॥

Where should I go? My home is filled with bliss.

ਜਿਨਿ ਸਕਲ ਬਿਕਲ ਭ੍ਰਮ ਕਾਟੇ ਮੋਰ ॥

I would go there, only if the Lord were not here. ||2||

Now tell me, Lord, what will my condition be?

ਅਬ ਕਹੁ ਰਾਮ ਕਵਨ ਗਤਿ ਮੋਰੀ ॥

Sikhism is fundamentally rooted in BHAKTI tradition and thus ultimately in Sanatana Dharma. There is no doubt about it despite what modern McSikh acrobatics try to claim otherwise

We can understand that Kabir despite being in favor of formless worship was very much embedded in the Dharmik fold but always preached in the spirit of the transcendental nature of Brahman to the point that HE LOST THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN HINDU AND MUSLIM.